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Evolution or Creation, The Final Argument by Dr Rashad Khalifa

Evolution or Creation, The Final Argument by Dr Rashad Khalifa

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1:04 Every one of you is aware of the spirited debate that has been raging for

1:10 decades between evolutionists and creationists. This hot debate began in

1:18 the mid 19th century, about 125 years ago when Charles Darwin developed his theory

1:26 of gradual evolution. Basically, what Charles Darwin said was

1:33 that life began spontaneously from inanimate inorganic matter.

1:40 This beginning of life was supposedly in water and a single simple cell first

1:48 formed, then this cell split and multiplied and evolved into new forms of life.

1:57 With the passage of millions upon millions of years,

2:02 fish came into existence in this water.

2:06 And with additional millions upon millions of years, some of the fish

2:11 started to walk on land, and started to develop lungs instead of gills.

2:19 Eventually, again additional millions and

2:23 millions of years were required for some of these land creatures to develop wings

2:30 and the ability to fly. Another branch of these land animals continued to develop

2:35 and evolve all the way to human beings. Of course, as scientists, we took this

2:43 theory of Charles Darwin and we scrutinized it. We put it to the test

2:47 like any other theory. Darwin used terms like natural selection, mutations,

2:55 survival of the fittest to explain his theory.

3:00 Now, during the last 100 years of scientific revolution, we learned quite a few things.

3:06 Many of the things that you and I learned as youngsters have been

3:11 found to be wrong or at best trivialized. So, we took this theory of evolution and

3:20 we studied it carefully. We started to look for the evidence. We treated it like

3:24 any other theory, trying to prove it and turn it into a law.

3:30 So, in the process of studying the theory and collecting evidence, fossils and skeletal remnants,

3:38 and so on, and the other sciences combined to teach us that parts of the

3:46 original theory of Darwin were unworkable or scientifically wrong, just downright wrong.

3:54 And this led to the modification of Darwin's theory.

3:59 As scientists, we had to modify the original theory of evolution as written

4:05 by Charles Darwin in order to fit the new established facts.

4:10 Let me give you a couple of examples. Gradual evolution proved to be wrong. Our

4:18 fossil record does not support gradual evolution. You heard about the missing

4:25 link. Every one of you knows about the missing link. And I'm here to tell you

4:29 that there is not just a missing link. There are thousands of missing links and

4:35 to solve this problem, the scientists came up with a new theory called

4:40 punctuated equilibrium. Stephen Gould of Harvard and Niles Eldredge came up

4:46 with this idea, punctuated equilibria, to solve the problem of the missing links.

4:53 What they said was that evolution happened in giant leaps, not gradually.

4:59 So, this was the first major modification of the original theory of evolution.

5:06 Another idea, for example, that we had to abandon was Lamarck's concept of inherited -

5:15 let me give you the correct expression here - the transmission of acquired

5:19 characteristics. This concept of Lamarck had to be abandoned because it proved

5:25 unworkable. And to give you an example from everyday life,

5:30 Lamarck for example said that the giraffe has a long neck because those

5:36 animals had to reach for high leaves and they lived in an area where they needed

5:41 the long neck. Well, this was proven unworkable and scientifically untenable

5:47 and it was eventually abandoned. So, we kept adjusting and

5:54 modifying the theory of evolution. What I wish to share with you today is a

6:00 scientific examination of both evolution and creation.

6:04 I will present to you physical evidence, irrefutable, incontrovertible evidence that will help

6:12 you decide exactly what took place: evolution and/or creation.

6:18 The title of this program is Evolution or Creation: the Final Argument. And hopefully, by the

6:24 end of this program, you will see enough evidence to help you

6:28 make a final decision about evolution and creation.

6:32 We will find out exactly what components of Darwin's theory are correct and which components are wrong.

6:40 And I must point out at this time that Darwin was indeed a genius when he

6:46 suggested natural selection, survival of the fittest, and mutations to explain his theory.

6:53 Let me give you a good example. The navel orange, this beautiful fruit is a

6:59 new creature. That's right. Your great grandfather never saw or tasted a navel orange.

7:06 And this happened through mutation. All of a sudden this tree came

7:11 out with this beautiful fruit, seedless and delicious. And, of course, now it is

7:16 spread all over the world. We take it for granted, but this is a good example of evolution.

7:22 However, I must point out that the navel orange evolved from oranges.

7:30 In other words, we did not see an apple evolve from oranges or a fig.

7:34 An orange, it is still... the navel orange is still an orange. And this is an important point.

7:54 The evolution creation issue is before the Supreme Court this year in 1987.

8:01 So, this program is quite timely because right now, we have a

8:06 powerful scientific and objective tool that can tell us exactly which events in

8:12 the world are probable and which events are not probable.

8:17 This powerful objective and scientific tool is mathematics.

8:22 Mathematics is the most scientific of all Sciences. It is a pure science and through mathematics, we

8:31 can tell if a bridge or a building is going to collapse or not under any given

8:36 circumstances. So, we can use this powerful tool to examine both evolution

8:43 and creation. This is exactly what we're going to do together and hopefully by

8:49 the end of this program, we, you and I, will reach a final decision.

8:54 So the name, the Final Argument, is quite appropriate.

9:30 Let me first simplify the mathematical laws, the laws of probability that we

9:35 will be using today to examine both evolution and creation.

9:40 Let us say we have five cubes, each cube is labeled with only one number, either one or two

9:49 or three or four or five. If we mix these five cubes in a mixer and have them

9:56 fall down in some kind of a device so they'll be lined up in one line or toss

10:01 them up in the air and have them fall in such a way so they'll be lined up,

10:06 what are the possible combinations of these five cubes?

10:12 How many permutations are we going to have? Well, the laws of mathematics are

10:16 very simple. They tell you that you will get 120 combinations and you obtain this

10:23 by multiplying, multiplying 1 by 2 by 3 by 4 by 5. The product is 120.

10:30 So, you will get 120 combinations or permutations. In other words, every combination, let us say

10:38 if they fall down lined up 1 2 3 4 5 in this particular combination, this

10:44 combination has a chance out of 120 chances. Let me show you on the board.

10:50 Here we are with the 5 cubes, each one labeled with only one number.

10:58 You toss them up in the air and have them fall down so they'll be lined up in this

11:03 particular combination. What are the possible combinations, how many?

11:09 Here, we see the formula, the number of possible combinations of permutations is 1 times

11:15 2 times 3 times 4 times 5 or 120 combinations.

11:22 The probability for any specific combination is obtained by dividing one

11:27 over 120, because each combination has a chance out of 120 chances.

11:34 And 1 over 120 equals 0.0086. This probability diminishes fast as we increase the

11:44 number of cubes. For example, if we increase the number of cubes by 1, so you

11:50 have six cubes instead of five, the number of possible combination jumps

11:55 from 120 to 720 - 1 times 2 times 3 times 4 times 5 times 6.

12:03 And the probability for any specific combination goes down from one out of 120 to one out of 720,

12:13 or 0.0014. So, you can see how fast it diminishes.

12:19 Okay, well, when will the probability diminish all the way to zero?

12:24 Well, mathematicians who are exceedingly precise, conservative, and careful scientists

12:32 decided that if you have 84 cubes, then the probability is zero for

12:39 getting any specific combinations. What does this mean?

12:44 Let me go to the board and show you this.

12:47 I have the number here for 84 cubes. The probability, look at this, is zero point

12:54 zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero all the way 50 zeroes and then 208.

13:02 So, you can see here that the probability for all practical purposes is zero.

13:09 And this by the way is extending it the full benefit of the doubt.

13:15 What does this mean in practical terms? This means that you can take these

13:20 eighty four cubes toss them up in the air and have them fall in such a way

13:25 so they line up, and if you want the specific combination of one two three

13:30 four five six seven eight all the way to 84, if you want this specific combination,

13:35 you can toss up these cubes and have them fall down lined up forever and you

13:41 will never see this combination. This is what probability 0 means. You can appreciate that.

13:47 Now, many of you are familiar with the lottery. You know what

13:50 your chances are of winning the lottery. And here in the lottery, we're talking

13:55 about five or six numbers. So, you can really appreciate the improbability of

14:02 having 84 cubes line up in a specific combination.

14:16 To make a long story short, the genetic material of the human being, the gene

14:23 that decides what kind of creature we have, this genetic material contains,

14:28 listen to this, 30 billion nucleotides arranged in specific sequences and specific quantities.

14:38 Now, what are the probabilities of arranging these

14:42 billions of nucleotides in a specific sequence? Of course, you know the answer

14:47 from mathematical laws. The probability is 0 many times over.

14:54 We are talking here about, not 84 numbers or 8,400 numbers or 84,000 or 84 million numbers,

15:04 we are talking about 30 billion nucleotides.

15:31 Now as scientists, we have been talking about similarities between the human

15:36 being and the ape as far as genetic material is concerned. And you know

15:41 something, if we have 90 percent similarity, we are still talking about

15:46 300 million nucleotides that must be arranged in a specific sequence

15:53 and specific quantities to change the ape into a human being.

15:59 Even if we have 99% similarity, we are still talking about 30 million

16:06 nucleotides that must be haphazardly arranged in specific sequence in order

16:13 to change the ape into a human being. And you know that the probability for

16:18 this is zero. We have now these mathematical laws that can tell us

16:23 exactly which event is probable and which event is not probable. And we know

16:30 that the probability that 30 million nucleotides, in case of 99% similarity

16:36 between the human and the ape, we know that this probability is zero.

16:40 We're not talking about 84 numbers. We're talking about 30 million nucleotides.

16:46 Another thing, at the other end of the evolutionary spectrum, we're talking

16:53 about the so called simple cell. You remember, when I stated Charles Darwin's

16:59 theory. Darwin said that first a simple single cell was formed. Well, the cell

17:09 that Darwin is talking about is not simple at all. It's a very complex chemical factory.

17:15 In fact, it is the most complex chemical factory we know of. It has

17:19 hundreds of actions and reactions going on in the cell and it has the DNA

17:25 material that is very complex. And just to quote something that will

17:32 make you smile at least. About 50 years ago,

17:36 (H. G.) Wells, (Julian) Huxley, and (G. P.) Wells wrote in their text: the Science of Life, I'm quoting now.

17:43 "Nothing can be seen inside the nucleus of the cell but the clear fluid."

17:51 Now, those great scientists knew nothing about DNA.

17:57 In the last 50 years, there was so much advancement in science that we realize

18:03 now how many actions and reactions are going on within the nucleus.

18:08 We know about the DNA, the helical structure. And we know the arrangement and the

18:13 specificity of sequences of nucleotides. And we know now that haphazard

18:19 creation of a simple cell, as Darwin called it, is not...the probability is zero.

18:29 According to Darwin, the evolution of organs paralleled the evolution of the organisms.

18:36 For example, the eye, this very complex organ started out, according to Darwin, as a

18:43 light-sensitive spot on the surface. After millions upon millions of years,

18:49 this light sensitive spot became a depression. Additional millions upon

18:55 millions of years passed and the depression became a pit and then

18:59 millions more years caused a lens to develop in that depression.

19:07 Well, according to this scenario, creatures existed for millions upon

19:12 millions of years in total blindness, awaiting the evolution of the 20/20 vision,

19:21 the evolution of the eye. And this, of

19:24 course, to you and to me doesn't... logically does not make sense.

19:29 And now we see by mathematical laws that the probability is zero that this happened haphazardly.

19:36 Do you know how many things are in the eye? The lens, the cornea, the

19:39 retina, there is... I can give you a list two pages of components of the eye.

19:45 Each one of them cannot be haphazardly, haphazardly formed. We have now these laws

19:53 of mathematics telling us that the probability is zero.

20:34 Let me give you some examples. The dragonfly has 30,000 lens in each eye,

20:42 lenses in each eye, 30,000 of them. Now, for millions of years, the dragonfly

20:50 existed with 30,000 lenses in each eye. What kind of intelligence told the

20:57 dragonfly to stop evolving at 30,000? Imagine the little area of the small eye of

21:03 the dragonfly divided into 30,000 cones, and each cone is fitted with a perfectly

21:10 shaped lens, imagine that. Now, why did the dragonfly

21:15 stop at 30,000? Why not a couple hundred more, or a couple thousand more? Who told

21:22 the dragonfly that this is enough evolution for your eye?

21:27 How about the housefly? 4000 lenses in each eye. The housefly has 4000 lenses in each eye.

21:34 Now, what kind of intelligence told the housefly to stop evolving the eye at 4000 lenses?

21:43 For millions of years, the fly had 4,000

21:46 lenses in each eye. Now, who told it to stop evolving? Why not go on to 5000 lenses?

21:54 The honeybee has 6,300 lenses in each

21:59 eye. And again, we test the same question. And if you pursue that question, it will

22:06 prove the existence of a Super Intelligent Being that told these

22:11 organisms to stop evolving their eyes at a certain number of lenses. So, this is the irony of it.

22:40 So, while evolution is proven to be correct by scientific

22:45 research, the initiation of life or the origin of species is proven to be not

22:54 probable. The probability is zero and therefore it had to be created by a

23:00 Super Intelligent Creator. And we will discuss this matter and see the

23:04 mathematical evidence supporting it before the end of this program.

23:11 Let us look at some established facts that you and I have witnessed in the

23:16 last few years. The first fact is that despite our tremendous scientific

23:22 advances, these great achievements, not a single scientist, not a single

23:28 researcher, not a single laboratory has succeeded in initiating life from

23:34 inorganic inanimate matter. They utterly failed in duplicating Charles Darwin's

23:42 basic concept that life evolved from inanimate inorganic matter.

23:50 What the scientists, what we succeeded in doing was to synthesize amino acids

23:57 and proteins from oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, and so on. This is the extent of

24:06 our success in the lab. We could not produce life.

24:13 Now, of course, it is natural that we can make amino acids or proteins from oxygen,

24:19 hydrogen, nitrogen, and so on. After all these are the ingredients that make up

24:24 amino acids and proteins. It's no big deal that you create the circumstances

24:29 for the ingredients to link up together and make up these chemicals. But these

24:35 are dead chemicals, dead molecules of amino acids and protein. And some people

24:41 would say "these are the building blocks of life." Well, that is right. These are the

24:45 building blocks but this is the extent of it, just that, building blocks.

24:50 Now, if you take a bunch of building blocks, put them in the corner and leave them there

24:54 for thousands of years, will they assemble themselves into a building, with the deliberate design?

25:01 Of course not. So, as scientists, we succeeded in creating

25:05 the building blocks, but we could not create the building. This is a very important fact.

25:28 The debate between evolutionists and creationists was so hot and so emotional

25:36 that some of my fellow scientists gave up their scientific objectivity. And I find

25:42 myself forced to criticize fellow scientists for behaving like unscientific creationists.

25:51 Let me give you a good example, has to do with the

25:54 booklet published by the National Academy of Sciences back in 1983.

25:59 In that booklet, they published a picture, one of their favorite pictures, the skulls of

26:06 a number of hominids. And they concluded from that picture that the skull of the

26:13 more advanced hominid evolved from the more primitive skull,

26:23 that the advanced skull evolved from the primitive skull.

26:28 Well, this is a perfectly valid and scientific conclusion. There's no problem with that.

26:36 But the problem is that the Academy ignored an equally valid conclusion

26:41 that these skulls, the animals that possessed these or the creatures that

26:47 possessed these skulls, simply existed independently, independent of each other

26:52 without any relationship whatsoever. Now, scientific objectivity dictates that

26:58 we present both views, that the skulls evolved from each other and/or the

27:05 skulls existed independently of each other.

27:10 This kind of abandoning scientific objectivity resulted from the high

27:18 emotionalism and fanaticism on both sides of the evolution creation issue.

27:25 But scientists would never abandon their objectivity. We'll be in deep trouble

27:30 if we abandon our objectivity. Note we cannot say evolution is a fact and

27:36 it is up to the rest of the world to prove otherwise. This is putting the cart

27:42 before the horse. When we say that this evolution business is a theory,

27:48 we are...the burden of proof is on us to provide the evidence that evolution is a fact.

27:56 It is our duty to establish evolution as a truth, not the other way around.

29:30 To summarize, we all appreciate the power of mathematics as a pure science, the

29:38 most scientific of all sciences. And we are all familiar with the simple formula

29:44 of Einstein, E=MC squared. And we are familiar with the tremendous

29:50 consequences of such a simple formula. Mathematics is an objective and powerful

29:56 tool that can tell us exactly what events in the world are probable

30:00 and what events are not probable. We have been talking about a DNA, the genes,

30:08 30 billion nucleotides in the human gene that interact with other life processes.

30:16 We are not talking about a toy. You know, when you go to the toy store and buy a

30:21 bunny rabbit, for example, it has ears and realistic eyes but these eyes don't see.

30:27 And this toy rabbit doesn't have any cells or DNA or nucleotides that are

30:34 arranged or any life actions and reactions. We are, we are assuming here

30:41 that we are just talking about the simple arrangement of nucleotides in

30:46 specific sequences and specific quantities. We are talking about just

30:51 physical arrangement. The probability is... this infinitesimally small probability

30:58 is multiplied by other infinitesimally small probabilities when you interact

31:04 the nucleotides, the DNA with other life processes in the cell and throughout the organism.

31:11 Now, we can use the same powerful tool to prove the alternative, namely creation.

31:20 Now, how in the world can anybody prove

31:23 creation? Nobody could imagine anything that can prove creation. But you know

31:30 something, about hundred years ago, we could not envision TV or the telephone

31:36 or communication satellite, but here we are. If you can see your

31:41 great-grandfather today and describe the television to him, he would disagree with you,

31:46 he would think you went crazy. So, similarly we could not imagine anything

31:51 that will prove or disprove creation but how about a coded message from outer space?

32:00 Did you ever think about that? A coded

32:02 message from outer space, telling you "I am the Creator and this is how I did."

32:08 A message that will give you all the details.

32:12 Many of you are familiar with the Carl Sagan's latest novel called Contact.

32:18 In Contact, he presented a fictitious story about a coded message from outer space

32:26 from some intelligent life out there. And the message was decoded by computers and

32:32 so on. And you know something, this is not fictitious at all. I am here to tell you

32:37 that we actually received a coded message, mathematically coded message

32:43 from the Super Intelligent Creator, telling us exactly what happened,

32:48 how the universe and the six million living organisms, six million species of

32:54 living organisms in this universe, how they all came to be.

33:28 Now that we possess this irrefutable mathematical proof that came from outer

33:36 space, from the Super Intelligent Creator, We can look back and at least smile at

33:43 statements of even some of the leading creationists. Let me quote for you one of

33:48 those leading creationists, Duane Gish. He said "it is impossible to conceive an

33:56 experiment that could disprove the possibility of creation. Creation thus

34:02 does not fulfill the criteria of a scientific theory." So,

34:07 even the creationists gave up thinking that there could never be anything to

34:12 prove or disprove creation. But here we are just like any other discovery, we

34:19 find this mathematically coded message from the Super Intelligent Creator.

34:26 The first hint of the mathematical code was reported about 900 years ago by a Jewish

34:33 rabbi, Rabbi Judah the pious. And by the way, I'm talking here about

34:39 unaltered original untranslated scripture. This is very important, very

34:47 crucial because there have been many distortions and changes, alterations, losses,

34:53 additions to the scriptures and we have to be extremely careful to know that we

34:59 are dealing with original unaltered untranslated scriptures, literally the

35:05 very same words that the Creator wrote down or sent to us. So, what Rabbi Judah

35:14 found... well, let me quote for you. It is easier this way.

35:21 The people... now, this is... this quotation is from a book called studies in Jewish Mysticism.

35:29 It was edited by Joseph Dan and Frank Talmage, and here is what they said.

35:34 "The people, Jews, in France made it a custom

35:39 to add in the morning prayer the words "ashrei temimei derekh” blessed are those

35:46 who walk the righteous way. And our Rabbi the Pious of blessed memory wrote that

35:52 they were completely and utterly wrong. It is all gross falsehood because there

35:58 are only 19 times" - now pay attention to these numbers - "there are only 19 times

36:05 that the holy name is mentioned in that portion of the morning prayer

36:10 and similarly you find the world Elohim 19 times

36:16 in the pericope of Ve-‘elleh shemot. Similarly, you find that Israel is called

36:22 sons 19 times and there are many other examples. All these sets of 19 are

36:32 intricately intertwined and they contain many secrets and esoteric meanings."

36:39 So, this was the first hint of a mathematical composition

36:43 in the message that came to us from the Creator, or some kind of a code.

36:49 Now, you realize now that it is important to find

36:53 original scripture, unchanged. And just like the evolutionists looking for

36:59 fossils and skeletal remains, scientists have been looking the world over for

37:04 original scriptures. You heard about the Dead Sea Scrolls and all the finds in

37:10 lots of... in the Middle East in many places. All these are attempts. Some of

37:15 them are failures and some of them are successes.

37:19 So, I set out to find an original scripture, and here is the result.

37:26 In this whole world, there's only one scripture that was never altered, not a single letter

37:34 was changed in that scripture, and that scripture is the Quran.

37:40 So, what I did was I got the Quran, an original copy, with the original Arabic and I put it in

37:48 the computer and I decoded an intricate mathematical code that is clearly beyond human ability.

37:55 So, now we have physical proof using the ultimate in scientific

38:00 evidence, mathematics, telling us that everything that happened.

38:05 That there is a Super Intelligent Creator. And in that message, we see how we came into being,

38:11 why we are here, where we are going, and many many other answers to lots of our

38:18 most urgent questions.

38:41 Before I put the Quran in the computer, I noticed a unique phenomenon that you

38:46 will never find in any other literary work. I noticed, for example, that chapter

38:52 2 of the Quran has in the first verse... there are only three letters in the first verse.

38:59 That's it. A. L. M., that is verse 1 of chapter 2. And these letters remained

39:06 mysterious for 1,400 years. Scholars and scientists of all kind have been looking

39:12 at these initials A L M and the other initials in Quran trying to figure

39:18 out what they mean and they could not do it. The computer did it recently and

39:25 to give you an idea, if you count the letters A L and M in chapter 2 of Quran,

39:32 you'll find that the total is 9899. And this number, 9899, is a multiple of 19.

39:42 Remember the work of Rabbi Judah the Pious? The number 19 turns out to be

39:49 the common denominator in the older scripture and in the newer scripture.

39:56 19 is the common denominator in the Bible, the original unaltered Bible, and also in

40:02 the latest edition of the scripture, the Quran. And this is very important.

40:08 Now, there are 29 chapters in Quran, covering half the Quran. The Quran has 114

40:17 chapters. Some of them are longer and some are shorter but the 29 initialed

40:22 chapters constitute half the Quran. And this mathematical system goes from

40:30 the very simple to the very complex. So, it is suitable for people of all levels of education.

40:36 For example, chapter 50 is entitled Q. That's it, just one letter, Q.

40:43 And it is initialed with the letter Q. The computer said that this chapter contains

40:49 57 Q's. When you count them, you can count them if you know the Arabic letters.

40:55 And you'll find that the total is 57, 19x3. There is one other chapter in

41:02 Quran that is initiated with the letter Q and that is chapter 42 which happens

41:07 to be more than twice as long as chapter 50, entitled Q. And when you count

41:14 the letter Q in chapter 42, you'll find exactly the same number, 57. So, the only

41:20 two Q-initialed chapters have the same number of Q's, 57 and 57.

41:27 Chapter 68 is initialed with the letter N as in Nancy, N. And you count the letters N in this

41:36 chapter and you come up with 133, 19x7. And this goes on and on and it gets

41:43 more and more complex until you realize that this is not human fabrication, that

41:49 this is way beyond human ability. For example, we have 7 chapters in Quran

41:55 that we see initialed with the letters H M, 7 of them about 1/10. They constitute about 1/10 of the whole book.

42:03 And when you count the letters H, "HA" and the M, "MEEM"

42:09 in these 7 chapters, you come up with a total 2147 and this is a multiple of 19,

42:17 the common denominator throughout the scriptures, the coded message from the Creator to us.

42:25 2147. Now, if only one letter H or one letter M was lost or added in the last

42:33 1400 years, you will end up with 2,148, for example, and this is not a multiple

42:40 of 19. The whole system collapses. Or 2146, because mathematics is a pure science.

42:48 It is the most sensitive scale. And if you lose one number, you don't have a multiple of 19.

43:29 By the time the computer was done with the mathematical analysis of Quran,

43:35 a vast mathematical code emerged. And you could see that every letter, every word

43:43 in Quran is precisely calculated beyond human ability and you will be

43:48 absolutely convinced that this is a message from a Super Intelligent Creator,

43:54 telling us exactly what happened. Let me give you another good example

44:01 because some people may think that only the initialed chapters are mathematically composed.

44:09 This simple example is that the opening statement in Quran consists of

44:14 four words, and the number of letters in this

44:19 statement is 19. It's a very important statement. It says "in the name of God, the

44:24 Gracious, the Merciful" and it is considered the most important statement

44:29 in Quran. It consists of 19 letters and every word is found in the whole book

44:34 in multiples of 19. For example, the first word ISM, or name, is mentioned

44:41 exactly 19 times throughout the whole book. The second word is God, ALLAH, and it

44:49 is found 2698 times. This is 19x142.

44:56 The third word the gracious, in Arabic AL-RAHMAN, is mentioned in the whole book 57, 19x3,

45:05 And the last word AL-RAHIM, or the Merciful, is mentioned 114 times or 19x6.

45:14 Now, right there, you can appreciate that this cannot

45:18 happen in a human fabricated book, in a human-made book because you can go to

45:23 the library, if you go to the library and examine 1 million human-made

45:29 books, how many books would you find where the opening statement consists of

45:34 an X number of letters and every word in the opening statement is repeated in the

45:39 whole book in multiples of X? How many? Again, the laws of probability say "zero."

45:45 You will not find a book where all the words of the opening statement comply

45:52 with this criterion. So, there you have it a very simple...this very simple phenomenon

45:58 by the way was published in Scientific American in the September 1981 issue.

46:04 And the comment on it was that this is an ingenious study of the Quran. I was really flattered.

46:54 What does this have to do with the evolution creation issue?

46:59 Well, we have here a vitally important document from the Super Intelligent Creator telling us

47:07 in words and letters that are mathematically composed beyond human

47:11 intelligence, telling us exactly what happened. And in this document, we see

47:19 that life began in water, just like Darwin said. So, this portion of Darwin's

47:28 theory is confirmed. We also see evolution and changes in creation in

47:34 Quran chapter 35 verse 1, and in chapter 16 verse 8. We see that evolution is a

47:42 continual process. So, according to this vitally important document, evolution is

47:49 a divinely guided process. Evolution is a creation of the Super Intelligent

47:56 Creator and it is something that is happening now on continuous basis. We

48:00 learn that every one of us was individually created and the evolution

48:07 that is taking place is individually controlled and guided by the Super

48:13 Intelligent Creator. One of the most exciting things about

48:18 this document is that the dichotomy, the great rift between science and religion

48:24 is eliminated. We now see this document from the Super Intelligent Creator

48:31 telling us that evolution is the Creator's work and that it is going on

48:36 continuously and therefore there is no need for this dichotomy between science and religion.

48:44 So, what we see here is mathematical,

48:47 irrefutable evidence that creation and evolution, both, are correct and they

48:54 complement each other. Of course, we have to examine the existing theories of

48:59 evolution and creation, and correct them in view of the new statements that came

49:06 to us from the Super Intelligent Creator. While on the subject of confirming or

49:12 rejecting existing Scriptures, I must point out that this mathematically

49:19 composed document from the Super Intelligent Creator, the Quran, sets the

49:25 record straight as far as many existing creationist

49:28 ideas are concerned. For example, we learn that the earth is billions of

49:33 years old, not 5000 or 10,000 years old. And we learn that the earth is

49:40 egg-shaped as I mentioned before, not flat. And we learn that Noah's Ark, for

49:49 example, did not look like what we see in the pictures of Bible stories and so on.

49:54 Noah's Ark was simply a raft made of logs tied together with primitive

50:00 ropes and Noah did not carry all the animals of the earth on his ark either

50:06 or this raft. He carried his domesticated animals to save himself, his family and

50:13 his animals from the flood. And the flood did not cover the whole world as we hear

50:19 as youngsters. The flood was a local flood. All this is proven by

50:26 mathematically composed statements from the Creator Himself.

50:43 It is very important to realize that the prevalent creationism has nothing to do

50:50 with the original untranslated Bible. That's right. The prevalent creationism

50:57 is a product of medieval storytellers and ignorant interpretations and

51:03 mistranslations of the original Bible. For example, the Bible says clearly

51:08 that one of our days is the same as one thousand years of your Lord. So... or the

51:17 day is equal to fifty thousand years if you look at the Quran in chapter 70 verse 4.

51:24 So, we are told clearly that the day of our Earth is not equal to any other day.

51:31 When you go to the Moon, the day equals 14 Earthly days. If you go to

51:37 Mercury, for example, the day over there is 88 of our days. So, the minute you

51:43 leave this tiny planet Earth, the day is no longer 24 hours. So, the truth is the

51:51 Bible does not say that the earth is 6,000 or 10,000 years old. The Bible does

51:57 not say that Noah's flood covered the whole world and the original Bible did

52:03 not say that Noah carried all his animals on the ark and the ark did not

52:08 look like an aircraft carrier either. These misrepresentations of the Bible

52:14 actually give Christianity and religion in general a bad name.

52:19 Most people who are pushing the prevalent false creationism are doing a terrible

52:25 disservice to Christianity and to the Bible because these misrepresentations

52:32 are not the truth. Scientific findings and now mathematics support the truth

52:38 in the Bible. And we must remember that the creationism that is prevalent today is

52:43 false. The true Christian creationism agrees 100% with science.

53:22 It is the prevalence of these ideas that are completely rejected by science and

53:29 the scientific findings and established facts. These ideas caused Darwin's

53:35 disillusionment with religion. And let me quote for you what Darwin said as a

53:44 result of these prevalent creationist ideas. I'm quoting now

53:51 "I gradually came to disbelieve in Christianity as a divine

53:55 revelation. This disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate but at last was complete."

54:04 And we cannot blame Darwin for seeing that the earth is billions of

54:12 years old as established by science while the creationist ideas say that the

54:17 earth is 6,000 years old. You cannot blame the man for not believing that Noah

54:23 carried all animals, the lions, the giraffes, the polar bears, and the giant

54:29 worms of Australia on on his ark. And you cannot blame Darwin for not believing

54:38 that the flood of Noah covered the whole world. So, all these things are now set straight.

54:45 We learn from this document that the Quran complements the old

54:49 Scriptures and confirms the majority of the truth in those scriptures and

54:56 consummates the whole message from the Creator to us.

55:02 To conclude, we now possess physical incontrovertible evidence that every one

55:12 of the six million species of living organisms came into being through a

55:17 creation process. Then, evolution took place and is going on continuously as a

55:23 divinely guided and controlled process. Thank you very much.

55:49 We have invited into our studio professor Jeff Clark. He is with Arizona

55:53 State University. He's an anthropologist and he maintains that creationism isn't

55:58 a science and therefore doesn't belong in scientific classes.

56:02 On the other hand, we have Dr. Rashad Khalifa. He is a biochemist and, of course, he takes the

56:09 opposite stand. And again, we're going to throw our phones open for your opinions

56:14 about it. It's a hot issue. It's going to be one that is you're gonna be

56:18 viewed with a great deal of interest by the people in United States in

56:21 various states. And we're going to find out how this thing is going to evolve.

56:27 Well, Bob I have to make a correction here in that I will approach the matter

56:31 from a scientific point of view. I agree with most of the things that Jeff

56:36 just mentioned in that science is our means to ascertain what the truth is. And we

56:42 have a very powerful tool, objective and scientific tool to ascertain what events

56:49 in the world are probable and what events are not probable. And this

56:54 powerful tool is mathematics. Mathematics is the most powerful, the most scientific

56:59 of all sciences and it represents the ultimate in scientific proof.

57:05 I realize that nobody can ever imagine a proof that will prove

57:12 either evolution or creation, but there is something new and very exciting

57:17 and I'm here to present it to you. So, in essence, we are talking about

57:22 a mathematically coded message from outer space. If you read the

57:26 Carl Sagan's Contact, he's talking about a novel, a fictitious message from outer space.

57:33 Now, this is not fiction anymore. And this is what I have come here with.

57:36 You're gonna have to put that in your pipe and smoke it.

57:39 Sorry. yeah, I dare say. But so far is the particular aspect of the Old Testament

57:45 that's of issue here, i.e., the book of Genesis. It's an origin myth like any

57:51 other origin myth. It's not a greater nor lesser than...

57:54 You keep going back to the book of Genesis, there exists...

57:59 The reason I say that is I believe that that underlies scientific creationism as espoused by Henry Morris.

58:06 Now, it's obvious Dr. Khalifa does not agree with Dr. Morris as to what...

58:10 He's not here right now. I am debating with you. That's quite true but who has written the text

58:15 on scientific creationism? Henry Morris. And who is the founder of the Institute for Creation Research?

58:21 Henry Morris. How long ago was that?

58:24 Well, he goes back about 20 years... Well, we're talking about now, Jeff. As soon as this program

58:29 is over, I will show you irrefutable mathematical evidence that we have a document

58:34 from outer space from the Creator telling us exactly... How are you gonna prove that

58:38 in the Supreme Court for heavens sake? Absolutely, I'll prove it in any court.

58:41 All right, I have to take some calls. This is really getting interesting, messages from outer space.

58:45 Absolutely. ...to absolutely prove the creation is a fact.

58:48 Yes sir. Is it possible that there is some sort of gigantic

58:54 protoplasm somewhere out in the cosmos with all the ingredients and all of this energy that

59:00 can in fact create things. I'm not talking about an old man in a robe with a beard

59:05 and pearly gates and things like that. I'm talking about is there a

59:09 possibility with our limited knowledge to envision some sort of humongous thing

59:16 that thinks that can create things? You can envision anything that you want

59:21 and they are obviously not in the strict rigorous sense, but...

59:25 You're not saying this about God. Oh yes, gods are the servants of the societies and the

59:31 cultures that create them. They have no existence apart from the societies that...

59:36 Even if it is proven to you? Well, I'd like to see somebody prove it.

59:40 I'm glad you like to see it because I can show it to you. Bob, there is no escape now that there is a

59:45 Super Intelligent out there, either through the theory of evolution, ironically,

59:49 or the theory of creation.